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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://craig.stanton.net.nz/2009/02/18/gps-tracks-in-iphoto/comment-page-1/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spread the word - you no longer need to rebuild your iPhoto library to pick up GPS coordinates added after importing. Somewhere in one of the recent updates Apple added &quot;Rescan for Location&quot; option when you right click on pictures. Only works when you&#039;re browsing a library. Thank you Apple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spread the word &#8211; you no longer need to rebuild your iPhoto library to pick up GPS coordinates added after importing. Somewhere in one of the recent updates Apple added &#8220;Rescan for Location&#8221; option when you right click on pictures. Only works when you&#8217;re browsing a library. Thank you Apple!</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
		<link>http://craig.stanton.net.nz/2009/02/18/gps-tracks-in-iphoto/comment-page-1/#comment-1308</link>
		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very strange and not what I&#039;ve experienced at all. I can quite happily put GPS Exif data into a photo, import it into iPhoto and see the location on the internal map. No matter how many times I view the photo it does not change. I can&#039;t begin to guess why your iPhoto changes the details it has for your photos but I can assure you it does nothing of the sort for me. Would you like to send me one of these pictures and I&#039;ll see if I can reproduce the problem on my machine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very strange and not what I&#8217;ve experienced at all. I can quite happily put GPS Exif data into a photo, import it into iPhoto and see the location on the internal map. No matter how many times I view the photo it does not change. I can&#8217;t begin to guess why your iPhoto changes the details it has for your photos but I can assure you it does nothing of the sort for me. Would you like to send me one of these pictures and I&#8217;ll see if I can reproduce the problem on my machine?</p>
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		<title>By: wco</title>
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		<dc:creator>wco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ve imported and kept about 1000 photos, all with GPS data in the EXIF, into iPhoto 09 and still have the problem described earlier, that the Places database doesn&#039;t rely on the EXIF but instead, requires a Places name associated with each photo.

Otherwise, what will happen is that after first displaying the correct location on the map for photos, the next time, it will arbitrarily assign to them one of the Places in your database.

In my case, they display as being Almudena, in Madrid.  But the actual photo file has the correct GPS coordinates, which are far different than for Almudena.  But iPhoto in the Extended Get Info will show the Almudena GPS coordinates instead.

If you export to a site like Picasa Web Galleries or to another application, the correct location will be displayed on the map.

The problem occurs if I don&#039;t manually assign it a place name.  But you use a GPS logger and you go through the trouble of using another application to sync and embed GPS data into the EXIF of hundreds of photo files.  When first imported, iPhoto shows the correct map location and labels the photos &quot;photo place.&quot;

Unless you change that label and give it a more specific Places name, the next time you open, iPhoto assigns these photos as Almudena.

So iPhoto is impractical and of little use for managing and displaying a large volume of photos with GPS data in the EXIF.

Instead, I&#039;d be better off exporting photos to another application or a site like Picasa and relying on a keyword like say Paris to show the hundreds of locations  on a map of Paris where I might take photos.

In fact, even the bundled Gisteq application, which I use to embed the GPS in the EXIF, is better for displaying not just the map but also the place name as it will look up Wikipedia to describe well-known locations near where the photo was taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ve imported and kept about 1000 photos, all with GPS data in the EXIF, into iPhoto 09 and still have the problem described earlier, that the Places database doesn&#8217;t rely on the EXIF but instead, requires a Places name associated with each photo.</p>
<p>Otherwise, what will happen is that after first displaying the correct location on the map for photos, the next time, it will arbitrarily assign to them one of the Places in your database.</p>
<p>In my case, they display as being Almudena, in Madrid.  But the actual photo file has the correct GPS coordinates, which are far different than for Almudena.  But iPhoto in the Extended Get Info will show the Almudena GPS coordinates instead.</p>
<p>If you export to a site like Picasa Web Galleries or to another application, the correct location will be displayed on the map.</p>
<p>The problem occurs if I don&#8217;t manually assign it a place name.  But you use a GPS logger and you go through the trouble of using another application to sync and embed GPS data into the EXIF of hundreds of photo files.  When first imported, iPhoto shows the correct map location and labels the photos &#8220;photo place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless you change that label and give it a more specific Places name, the next time you open, iPhoto assigns these photos as Almudena.</p>
<p>So iPhoto is impractical and of little use for managing and displaying a large volume of photos with GPS data in the EXIF.</p>
<p>Instead, I&#8217;d be better off exporting photos to another application or a site like Picasa and relying on a keyword like say Paris to show the hundreds of locations  on a map of Paris where I might take photos.</p>
<p>In fact, even the bundled Gisteq application, which I use to embed the GPS in the EXIF, is better for displaying not just the map but also the place name as it will look up Wikipedia to describe well-known locations near where the photo was taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene K. Mueller</title>
		<link>http://craig.stanton.net.nz/2009/02/18/gps-tracks-in-iphoto/comment-page-1/#comment-1234</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene K. Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I coded the last two days a small perl-script which does a bit what iPhoto09 does:

http://renekmueller.com/Computer_Diary/1240381680/Automatically_Geotag_Photos_without_GPS

or http://the-labs.com/GeoTag/

It uses a public domain source file, cities1000.txt or allCountries.txt - and converts it into a sqlite-db, and then lookups go fast. It finds locations, list lat/long, and displays total distance of looked up locations.

I used it to geotag my photos which I commented with location information. I also support a simple interpolation of location based on timestamp of the photos.


Rene
renekmueller.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I coded the last two days a small perl-script which does a bit what iPhoto09 does:</p>
<p><a href="http://renekmueller.com/Computer_Diary/1240381680/Automatically_Geotag_Photos_without_GPS" rel="nofollow">http://renekmueller.com/Computer_Diary/1240381680/Automatically_Geotag_Photos_without_GPS</a></p>
<p>or <a href="http://the-labs.com/GeoTag/" rel="nofollow">http://the-labs.com/GeoTag/</a></p>
<p>It uses a public domain source file, cities1000.txt or allCountries.txt &#8211; and converts it into a sqlite-db, and then lookups go fast. It finds locations, list lat/long, and displays total distance of looked up locations.</p>
<p>I used it to geotag my photos which I commented with location information. I also support a simple interpolation of location based on timestamp of the photos.</p>
<p>Rene<br />
renekmueller.com</p>
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		<title>By: martip</title>
		<link>http://craig.stanton.net.nz/2009/02/18/gps-tracks-in-iphoto/comment-page-1/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>martip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,

I used and I liked very much your  Geotagger, thank you for sharing it!

I try to contribute my 2 eurocents (as I&#039;m from Italy) with a little thing I discovered, looking at iPhoto databases like you did.

I found one more interesting table.

If you inspect the iPhotoAux.db database you can see ther&#039;s a table called SpGpsTrackPoints (fields: primaryKey INTEGER, points BLOB).

I am pretty sure that the primaryKey field will be used to estabilish a 1-to-many relationship with the SpGpsTrack table you have discovered in iPhotoMain.db.

As the points field is a BLOB it sounds to me that it will be used to store entire track files, hopefully in GPX, KML or in any other &quot;known&quot; format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>I used and I liked very much your  Geotagger, thank you for sharing it!</p>
<p>I try to contribute my 2 eurocents (as I&#8217;m from Italy) with a little thing I discovered, looking at iPhoto databases like you did.</p>
<p>I found one more interesting table.</p>
<p>If you inspect the iPhotoAux.db database you can see ther&#8217;s a table called SpGpsTrackPoints (fields: primaryKey INTEGER, points BLOB).</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that the primaryKey field will be used to estabilish a 1-to-many relationship with the SpGpsTrack table you have discovered in iPhotoMain.db.</p>
<p>As the points field is a BLOB it sounds to me that it will be used to store entire track files, hopefully in GPX, KML or in any other &#8220;known&#8221; format.</p>
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		<title>By: Car GPS</title>
		<link>http://craig.stanton.net.nz/2009/02/18/gps-tracks-in-iphoto/comment-page-1/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Car GPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel is right. You need to rebuild the library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel is right. You need to rebuild the library.</p>
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		<title>By: wco</title>
		<link>http://craig.stanton.net.nz/2009/02/18/gps-tracks-in-iphoto/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>wco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joel but I found out that when you export, under the File Export tag, you can check &quot;Include Location Information&quot; for the file.

So I guess Picasa and others who write export plugins for iPhoto will have to add similar functionality to their software, unless again, Apple is hiding that interface from 3rd-party developers like Craig.

I have a bunch of pictures from Switzerland a couple of years ago.  Unfortunately, I will have to manually locate them and I can only approximate the locations.

Kind of reminds you of those trips so while it&#039;s a lot of work, it has its rewards.

Or maybe a reason to go back to Switzerland and a lot of these other places, to tag with a logger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joel but I found out that when you export, under the File Export tag, you can check &#8220;Include Location Information&#8221; for the file.</p>
<p>So I guess Picasa and others who write export plugins for iPhoto will have to add similar functionality to their software, unless again, Apple is hiding that interface from 3rd-party developers like Craig.</p>
<p>I have a bunch of pictures from Switzerland a couple of years ago.  Unfortunately, I will have to manually locate them and I can only approximate the locations.</p>
<p>Kind of reminds you of those trips so while it&#8217;s a lot of work, it has its rewards.</p>
<p>Or maybe a reason to go back to Switzerland and a lot of these other places, to tag with a logger.</p>
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		<title>By: Joël Fisler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joël Fisler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did find a solution for the problem you mentioned with the already imported geotagged photos that are not recognized: you have to rebuild the iPhoto Library (see link below) and choose at least the option &quot;rebuild Thumbnails&quot;. To be honest: I clicked all the options when rebuilding the Library so I am not totally sure which was responsible for re-importing the EXIF data but in the end it worked and now I can see all my Photos in &quot;Places&quot;. Exporting and Re-Importing was not an option for me because you loose all your books, calendars, ratings and lot of other information...

Greetings from Switzerland, here&#039;s the Link on how to rebuild the Library:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2638</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did find a solution for the problem you mentioned with the already imported geotagged photos that are not recognized: you have to rebuild the iPhoto Library (see link below) and choose at least the option &#8220;rebuild Thumbnails&#8221;. To be honest: I clicked all the options when rebuilding the Library so I am not totally sure which was responsible for re-importing the EXIF data but in the end it worked and now I can see all my Photos in &#8220;Places&#8221;. Exporting and Re-Importing was not an option for me because you loose all your books, calendars, ratings and lot of other information&#8230;</p>
<p>Greetings from Switzerland, here&#8217;s the Link on how to rebuild the Library:<br />
<a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2638" rel="nofollow">http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2638</a></p>
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		<title>By: wco</title>
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		<dc:creator>wco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so Apple is keeping things to themselves?

Or maybe since Flickr uploads are integrated, they share with Flickr.

Strange that they&#039;d use Google Maps within iPhoto but not work with Picasa or Panaramio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so Apple is keeping things to themselves?</p>
<p>Or maybe since Flickr uploads are integrated, they share with Flickr.</p>
<p>Strange that they&#8217;d use Google Maps within iPhoto but not work with Picasa or Panaramio.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhoto stores Places data in it&#039;s own database, the same database that stores the Events and Faces data. It doesn&#039;t modify the actual photo image. Since Places is new and has no interface for programmers it&#039;ll take a while for any export plugin to get hold of that data. Of course the iPhoto progammers know where and how the data is stored, so the Extended Photo Info window is able to get at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhoto stores Places data in it&#8217;s own database, the same database that stores the Events and Faces data. It doesn&#8217;t modify the actual photo image. Since Places is new and has no interface for programmers it&#8217;ll take a while for any export plugin to get hold of that data. Of course the iPhoto progammers know where and how the data is stored, so the Extended Photo Info window is able to get at it.</p>
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